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JasXPear

01. Check for leaking front hub seals (can be costly if you cant do it yourself)

02. Confirm when it last had a cam belt change

03. Check condition of front springs (flat or inverted it may need new springs)

04. Check propshafts for play in UJ's

05. Check for judder when pulling away in 1st

06. Check 4WD and low ratio engages OK

07. Check operation of free wheeling hubs on older model

08. Check heater works on all speed settings

09. General condition of truck - does it look used and abused?

10. Check service history and documentation

11. Check for rust inside door & tailgate bottoms

12. Check for rust on chassis particularly rear cross members

13. Check for pulling under braking or for judder due to warped disks

13. Check bottom four corners of cab for rust - water seems to collect there

14. Check inside top of rear wheel arches for rust

15. Check exhaust gas colour once warm. Black = diesel, blue = oil, white = steam

16. Check if truck drives straight or pulls to one side.

17. Check rear prop centre bearing for play

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timjiggs

Best advice is go to a meet, every owner at a meet is gonna love the excuse to talk about their truck and all the teething prolems they've gone through surely!?!?!?!, plus get people showing you what they're talking about as opposed to trying to understand it by reading threads without any hands on experience.

Having said that, might be worth taking a look at the onceover that nitro gave a truck for someone the other day http://www.hpoc.co.uk/community/index.php?...c=5229&st=0 loads of info there on what to look for.

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Kriss

oopppsss...i didnt do ANY of those checks

i had to buy front springs (£165 heavy duty ones)

front section exhaust (34)

sold bench seat(£126)

got recaros(£50)

front off side knocks like someone banging the front door

heater needs a relay

i have a nice little foot spare when it rains (where the fud the water is getting in i dont know)

the body work has more dents than a stock car thats just lost

and a few more things

But alas...its all being fixed up and mot`ed now....it cost me £1000 when i got it but as being self employed at the time the recipt will be going in so maybe it`ll end up costing me £500 or less...it had 10 months mot and 4 months tax and got me all the way back from colchester (about 165miles) on £25

So if it costs me another £1000 or so to get it all working the way it should, serviced and tidyed up alittle £2000-£2500 for a reliable MK2 sounds ok to me and i`ll be happy :)

My mate a few doors up has a landy 90 whick cost him £2000+, AND an TD astra van...hes spent SOOOOOOoo much money on it he would never get a fraction of what he spent on it back if he sold it. Where as on the Hilux would get most if not all my money back if i chose to sell it...which i wont :)

PS i posted another one befor this post...but i dont think it worked :rolleyes:. So if this is my second post sorry..lol

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demon9868

is it still okay to check the 4wd for a short distance even if the vehicle isn't off-road? - you wouldn't want to wind up the diffs on a motor that you might later buy! - having said that though, i suppose you could drive in a straight line then the diffs wouldn't be affected (???) anyone???

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timjiggs
is it still okay to check the 4wd for a short distance even if the vehicle isn't off-road? - you wouldn't want to wind up the diffs on a motor that you might later buy! - having said that though, i suppose you could drive in a straight line then the diffs wouldn't be affected (???) anyone???

All those that i test drove i dropped into 4wd on tarmac, just like you said, I kept it in a straight line for a short distance just to listen for any nasty noises, no point going round bends as when in 4wd on tarmac it feels tragic - as I've learn from my inexperienced days :blush:

Check the action on the free wheling hubs as well if fited :)

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jrademan

Just bought my Hilux cost me R8000 for first service, dyno tune and then brake pads, balance drive shaft, leaking front hubs. Still have to replace steering parts as worn.

Good to check these things before hand, but the price i paid was discounted form the orignal as I knew about the hubs

Took me 6 months to find a good one in SA. lots of rubbish/ abused

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jrademan

GOOD ADVICE

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Flarris
GOOD ADVICE

I'll second that, thanks for all responses. Particularly check list

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irish1

I cant speak for the uk but prices in Ireland are being pushed through the roof by the export market

i sold a 1997 mk 3 to a chap who said he was from Cameroon it had a mile of play in the steering, half its interior missing, jagged bodywork, and a schutz spray job! i sold it for 1200 euro, atthe time sterling and euro were the same value..... As im in the motor trade (and a nosey f***er) i wanted to find out what he would make on it... Gumtree south africa a petrol hilux in straight condition was making 100000 ran, ten thousand euro equivalent if im right... Iknow africa is a divided place so it might be a bad indication.. Point being anyways if there worth so much there its a matter of time till we have a shortage!!!!

and lads exporting to afghanistan ahem not requiring tax books so watch your jeeps!

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jord_eds

I'll be buying a Hilux before Winter. I'm still learning about Mk4's and 5's whilst I'm saving up.

I'm an ex-Land Rover owner so I can't help but ask about the chassis of Hiluxes. Are there any points to specifically check on an older Hilux? Common welding or plate sections I might be able to look out for?

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Hamish

01. Check for leaking front hub seals (can be costly if you cant do it yourself) DO I NEED SPECIALIST TOOLS OR IS IT EASY ENOUGH FOR A COMPETENT PERSON?

05. Check for judder when pulling away in 1st - WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF IT'S JUDDERING?

06. Check 4WD and low ratio engages OK - HOW, AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF THE PROGNOSIS IS BAD?

07. Check operation of free wheeling hubs on older model -

13. Check for pulling under braking or for judder due to warped disks

16. Check if truck drives straight or pulls to one side. - ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO PROBLEMS

17. Check rear prop centre bearing for play

Hello again,

I feel like i'm asking a bunch of questions that you guys must have been asked a million times, so apologies but could any of you help me out with explaining some of the above, for example how I might check certain things, how easy and which of these problems would you want to avoid like the plague?

Cheers all, much appreciated!

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The Sober Fox

What would people say is an acceptable milage to look for when buying a Hilux? Obviously the lower the better, and when I've been with people buying used cars most use the rule of thumb of avoid over 100,000 miles. However for the price range I'm working with, probably £5000 being the upper limit, most have at least 110,000/120,000 on the clock. As the reputation of Hilux's dictates, they are a workhorse and 'indestructible', so what sort of life/condition would one get with an average truck thats already covered many a mile?

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Rog

The hilux will rack up a high mileage without major problems but only if its been well looked after..as with any vehicle if the oil has been changed regularly it should be ok...there is a thread on here where you can see hilux mileages.

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hiluxman

Buy based on condition not mileage.

Ive had just as many problems with low miles stuff as i have had with mega miles.

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JasXPear

when I've been with people buying used cars most use the rule of thumb of avoid over 100,000 miles.

Thats running in mileage for a Hilux. Once my mk5 Hilux was in the dealer for a service. When i went to collect it the bloke in front was collecting his mk5 too. The dealer commented that once the miles go over 100k people tend to stop taking them in for dealer servicing so they rarely see any with as high mileage as his - his was on 250K. The bloke just laffed and said "You out to see my other then, thats on 350K, still on the same engine engine and gearbox"

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The Sober Fox

Haha cheers guys, will begin not to focus too much on mileage now and more on the points you mentioned in the first post Jas :thumbsup:

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JasXPear

Haha cheers guys, will begin not to focus too much on mileage now and more on the points you mentioned in the first post Jas

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D4re

Hey I get that judder pulling away in first. What's that?

Thanks.

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LeicesterLad

Having purchased a 2,5d, manual as a company car for my manager, I fancied the 3-0 d4d auto. I happened to be out for the day it was delivered, on returning to our works I gave it a quick look over and traveling down the M69 had to call the Toyota sales rep' and ask why the feck is it doing about 4000 revs at only 50mph. " Knock the selector to the left " he says. How the feck were I to know it wasn't in top gear !!!

Happy trucking, LeicesterLad.

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hypoid90

Something I found out to my cost a few years ago buying a MK3 (would be the same for MK2) was that if the speedo doesn't work, don't buy it, until you can find out why.

Could just be the speedo cable has broken, or something in the gauge, but could also be that the transfer box is in a mess.

To check, find the speedo sender at the top of the transfer box, right at the back by the prop shaft (where the cable comes out, which has a screw collar and can be removed by hand, or could be electric and just has a plug). There's one bolt next to this, which once removed means one can draw out the sender unit which has a little white plastic screw gear on the end which provides the drive for the speedo. If this looks like an apple core, maybe drain some of the transfer box oil to see what's what. Mine just had a dreg of brown rusty yoghurt, as the front drive seal had failed and it had lost all the oil and taken in some water. Under the 4WD gear lever it was all dry and rusty, but still somehow working.

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LDTH

Useful advices. :thumbsup:

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Roy90

Toyota Warranty.... 

Can anyone confirm if this is an International Manufacturers Warranty or National only? Based in Ireland and was considering buying a fairly new model still in Warranty from the U.K (always better spec and selection) but investing that amount would need Warranty covered over here.  Anyone know for sure?

Thanks

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